Comments on: What is the Central Theme of Your Life? http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/ for friends of University Bible Fellowship Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:34:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.1 By: GerardoR http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11714 Tue, 17 Dec 2013 03:50:28 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11714 deep question Dr. Toh.
I think that for most of my life, the central theme has been “a desire to be just like everyone else.”

This has caused me so much trouble and created a lot of pain among the people in my life. Only after finding Jesus did I try to find my authentic self in him.

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By: Chris http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11559 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:24:32 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11559 Interestingly, Mt 20:1-16 is one of my favorite parables, even though I’m just as much a “justice freak” as Brian. I remember how my mother told this parable to me and my brother when we protestet about how my parent seemed to favor our third, youngest brother. That parable somehow stuck with me since then and made me get attracted to Jesus’ teachings because I sensed the deep truth and love in it.

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11558 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:24:14 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11558 Joe, your two comments here speak to the dilemma that grace resolved for me.

So yes, I agree: “To be a Christ follower means, in a sense, to give up a great deal of our desire for justice now in the faith and hope that on the day of our resurrection God will vindicate.”

Final vindication will come in the next life (whatever that life is).

And yes, I agree but partially: “we are to display and promote justice in our midst now as a sign and foretaste of the coming kingdom”

I would say we live out justice rather than “display and promote”, but not a huge difference I guess. The issue with displaying justice is that we go riding off on our “holy high horse” or go on witch hunts to demand people to repent (not that I’ve ever been on a high horse or anything…. :)

So my first reaction and the reaction of many is to either fatalistically hope in future justice or become arrogant, self-righteous castle-builders who get rejected by even their close friends for being judgmental. In that case, the self-righteous one has to look to the past to justify his/her present. That describes a lot of how I lived in ubf. I was castle-builder (well KOPHN builder).

The resolution for me came by surrendering my castle-builder sense of justice in the present, laying it at the cross. And yes it was Jesus’ smile on the cross to the criminal next to him in the Passion movie that caused this surrender to grace.

Now I connect final justice to the present with grace– grace extended to all humanity. My castle destroyed and I live outside the gates (more God-speak sorry but it is difficult to articulate this sometimes).

So instead of justice demanding me to display just actions, justice (as understood on the cross) now demands me to embrace humanity, destroy my “castle”, and speak out against the only one injustice that matters: abuse of authority. That injustice is the only injustice I can find where Jesus “let go” and just whaled on those in power who were oppressing people. Jesus was most firm with those who claimed their own authority over other people.

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11557 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:12:10 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11557 Precisely Ben!

“Justice absolutely requires fairness, honesty and openness without favoritism or preset agendas and without negotiating clandestine back end deals.” – See more at: http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#sthash.4bJqhvQV.dpuf

That is why I won’t advocate anarchy nor will I join secret attempts to “reform”. I will not collude behind the backs of people. Justice prevents me from following that path.

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By: Joe Schafer http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11556 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:31:20 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11556 …and yet, we are to display and promote justice in our midst now as a sign and foretaste of the coming kingdom

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By: Joe Schafer http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11553 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 14:32:07 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11553 Justice is a very interesting value. God is truly just, but the gospel often violates our human sense of justice. This is illustrated well by the parable of the workers in the vineyard (Matthew 20:1-16). People who believe they have sacrificed a lot for God and served him faithfully really want to maintain a sense of superiority and privilege over newcomers who, in their opinion, haven’t done as much as they. This lies at the heart of many of the problems that you and I experienced in ubf. God’s grace is difficult to accept and extend to others because it so often violates our need of justice. At the cross, Jesus had to completely sacrifice his sense of justice, giving it over to the Father as he submitted his innocent self to cruelty and shame and punishment. His vindication came when God raised him from the dead. To be a Christ follower means, in a sense, to give up a great deal of our desire for justice now in the faith and hope that on the day of our resurrection God will vindicate.

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By: Ben Toh http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11551 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 14:10:08 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11551 Justice, yes, Brian. It certainly is also a central theme of Christ and it is related to his holiness, righteousness and judgment.

Justice seems to also be the central theme of millenials today, both of Christians and non-Christians. Justice absolutely requires fairness, honesty and openness without favoritism or preset agendas and without negotiating clandestine back end deals.

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11550 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:48:40 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11550 So how do I live in a world filled with many injustices when my center is justice? Well I often tend to want to escape. I am prone to living long periods of my life with cognitive dissonance, separating myself from reality.

A few years ago, I let all my fantasy worldview crash to the ground. And I found that I could resolve the disconnect between my center of justice and the unjust world around me with grace. Now I am much happier. And all my theology/philosophy is consistent. Everything fell into place when I surrendered to grace.

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/22/what-is-the-central-theme-of-your-life/#comment-11549 Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:43:43 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=7231#comment-11549 Excellent question, Ben. We should find our center, I believe. Taking various character trait tests such as Strength Finders, help us find our center. And that center does not have to be Jesus’ center or even be “biblical”. We are unique human beings. Be who you are!

My center is justice.

That’s why I loved super heroes as a kid- Batman, Shazzam, Superman, Spiderman. That’s why I fell in love with Jesus. That’s why I love movies like “A Few Good Men”. That’s why I react and overreact and change my mind when I encounter people and ideologies that promote injustice. That’s why injustice is the single most infuriating thing to me. That’s why I’m often a pain to some people. And that’s why, I believe, I became entangled with ubf.

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