Comments on: Gravity: Discovering Life When Facing Death

By: Joe Schafer

Joe Schafer — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:13:17 +0000

Yes. Bigbear’s letter deserves attention.

By: Ben Toh

Ben Toh — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:00:15 +0000

Maybe I shouldn’t have done this: “slap (bigbear) in the face with two quick articles.” But my thinking was that my “distraction” linked to his article in the first sentence. Also, his article perhaps does not require much comment, for it simply informs in some detail.

My hope is that UBF will soon begin to humbly acknowledge wrongs from the past. We have at least 3 clear articles (from Vitaly, yourself and now bigbear) that identifies clearly the UBF issues in Yekaterinburg, Toledo and now Cincinnati.

In today’s world of cyberspace and TGIF (Twitter, Google, Instant messaging and Facebook), people–young people especially–do a search immediately when they encounter something new, say UBF. Then they will find all the negative press and not see a SINGLE REASONED RESPONSE to all the allegations against UBF.

I believe that the public pressure from UBFriends (and others) prompted Toledo to be the first to apologize. Hopefully, other UBF chapters and HQ will follow suit. UBF has decades of apology, humility, and honesty to make up for. If the leaders do not think so, then certain extinction awaits her.

By: Brian Karcher

Brian Karcher — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:42:50 +0000

“Not to distract from [bigbear]’s important letter to Cincinnati UBF and to UBF at large and his first post…” – See more at: http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/11/17/gravity/#more-7213

Ben, it is difficult not to be distracted from bigbear’s article. It seems to me that we just slapped him in the face with two quick articles. I wish we would seriously discuss bigbear’s letter. And we should also seriously discuss bigbear’s first post from back in June:

http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/06/26/dont-forget-gods-grace/